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The waterfall model is not an "argument"
"some sceptics suggest that the waterfall model is a false argument"
- Have you read the piece used to support the statement? Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:42, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
The statement "Thus the waterfall model maintains that one should move to a phase only when its preceding phase is reviewed and verified." is not a correct interpretation of what Royce wrote. In fact, he explicitly warns against this as "risky and invites failure". KeithC (talk) 22:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Be bold and fix it then, but this is' the main problem with waterfall. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:10, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Does or did the waterfall model ever even exist?
While the term "waterfall" certainly exists, none of the references on the page support that it was ever an actual project management approach. It seems to be nothing more than a pejorative term. A sort of bucket into which all bad project management approaches can be put. Is there any evidence that the "waterfall model" ever existed? Twasonasummersmorn (talk) 18:27, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Having looked more deeply at the references on this page, they're dreadful. Royce (the reference on which the whole article almost depends) does not say what he's supposed to have said in the referenced paper and the rest of the references are full of "some say". If no-one has better references I'm going to do a pretty tight cropping of the whole article. Twasonasummersmorn (talk) 20:41, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Still no satisfactory references on here. The article seems to be based on misquoting a few articles - generally from very long ago - and then claiming (without reference) that the "waterfall" approach so demonized in previous years as a counterpoint to Agile, existed. Twasonasummersmorn (talk) 15:34, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps it's the question that is lacking. The "model" adjective is shorthand and synonymous with approach. Feel free to correct the term or make adjustments, but the tags of shame you've place are childish. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
This definately exists, it's a recommended product development process by the FDA in https://www.fda.gov/media/116573/download linked from https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/design-control-guidance-medical-device-manufacturers. Poisonadder1 (talk) 09:21, 2 June 2021 (UTC)